[Non-AFCB] Terry loses captaincy

[utahred]

I don't for one second consider that to be a strong attack on Terry nor do I consider it to be knocking of the team. The revelations have come out, right or wrong, and again I'm sure Terry was aware of what was expected of him by Capello, he sure as hell knows what the media is like in this country and his error of judgement has led to him losing in the armband. Again I'm quite sure he is sat at home calling himself ebery name under the sun.

If I was making a strong attack against him I'd be going through what he had done in great detail, pointing out every tiny detail, e-mailing anyone of importance to get my view across and generally making a lot more of an issue of it than calling him a twat. I suspect that had I used the word Fool rather than twat then this wouldn't have been an issue for you so lets not turn this in to a disagreement over language as it seems that our opinions are essentially the same.

[Mightyreds]

You are missing my point Utah, firstly I said it is down to the media that we will now have a struggle to win the world cup, I never said it was down to JT being sacked, secondly I said it was a strong word to use as it is not appropraite to use it for anyone let alone the former England Captain, and thirdy I said it shows up our country and the media for what it is when there are bigger issues in the world and the headline story is about where a footballer get's his jollies, are we really that small minded in this country???

Right or wrong it's his personal life and should be respected as such, who are we to judge him, his football yes but not his life!!

That is the problem I have with this all, the country is driven by media nonsense which should be thrown in the gutter where it belongs and not turned into a national debate!!

At no point did I make a personal attack on you so let's make that clear as well!!

The news of the poor chap who died at the weekend should put all this in it's right place, there really are far more important things going on in the world!!

[utahred]

We could go round in circles all day.........

Moving on

[bmb]

It's ok Utah - he's sulking because he and beachboy haven't had their Monday am domestic yet